On Seeing the Trauma of the Other
A New Episode of On Being, With Yochi Fisher and Loaay Wattad
This episode emerged from a private gathering in The Hague in the fall of 2024 with a small group of people who live in Israel — both Jewish and Palestinian, Jews and Palestinians who continue to share life. We’re pleased to invite you now to overhear this particular conversation, with the permission of all involved. It centered around the matter of intergenerational trauma and healing — in a land in which the traumas of two peoples are terribly, inextricably intertwined. Yochi Fischer is a historian. Loaay Wattad is a lecturer, translator, and editor focused on children’s and adolescent literature in Arabic and also in Hebrew. It is a gift to experience the friendship between them, as well as the struggle. This, and the passionate interaction with others in the room that follows, holds complexity and nuance and persistent humanity that news from this part of the world rarely conveys. We were brought together by the Van Leer Jerusalem Institute.
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Questioner:
How are we to treat others?
Ramana Maharshi:
There are no others.
I was both moved and enlightened by your interview and collaboration entitled ON SEEING THE TRAUMA OF THE OTHER. Thank you. Many thoughts after. Pauline Boss